Showing posts with label The State Of The Hobby. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The State Of The Hobby. Show all posts

Thursday, May 26, 2022

The State Of The Hobby: Card Supplies

I sure hope you have your coffee mug ready and are sitting down to read the latest Cards Over Coffee post because here we go!!

The State Of The Hobby series is back again. 

There are still many parts of the hobby I am hoping to tackle after everything has changed the past two years.

Today we discuss Card Supplies.

Along with not finding retail card products, the rising costs of cards in general, it should have been expected that card supplies would be next.


Not only was there and still is a shortage on some items, but prices rose as well. It was near impossible to find toploaders and penny sleeves most days and some versions of those items are still out of stock for months. Keep in mind that Toploaders and Penny Sleeves are just an examples, there were many other items that were impossible to find as well and not just from BCW.


Things got so tough, that BCW even had to put up a Back-Order to let customers know it could be a while on some of their favorite items. Especially since there are some items still on backorder until August or later.

Keep in mind, BCW is once again just an example. All supply companies felt the heat from this.

This is just another frustrating part being a part of the hobby the last couple of years. Hopefully things will change soon for the better. Luckily for me, I don't mind reusing old supplies I have had kicking around for years so I am all set for awhile and not having to battle like a lot of collectors are.

Thoughts on card supplies, what you have struggled to find or what you have noticed has gone up in price welcomed in comments.

I tip my mug to you all as a thanks for coming to read today's post on this fine Thursday. I need to finish up this cup and grab another soon before my day fully begins.

Coffee Card Blogger Out.

Friday, May 6, 2022

The State Of The Hobby: 90's Parallels/Inserts

*takes a sip, feels a little angered from the newest faze from the hobby. takes an angry sip. gets ready for a new #CardsOverCoffee post to let out that frustration*

The influx of money hungry card chasers in the hobby have finally dug their way into the depths of my favorite part of collecting, the late 90's.

First they cleaned off retail shelves, then they drove up prices on retail and hobby products, and now they are driving insert and parallel prices up from the 90's including guys like Rodney Hampton, Charles Way and Kerry Collins that I collect.
 
Check out this sale on a Rodney Hampton Red PMG. When I acquired my version of this card it was $60, which I still thought it was steep. Yes, it's raw unlike this one, but still, it's Rodney Hampton. There is no reason for a card like this to be this high.


Check out these sales as well. Kerry Collins for over $300?? Dave Brown, yes, Dave Brown raw sold for over $200. You could have landed that card for probably $20 two years ago. Same with Tony Brackens.

It's not just PMG's that are going nuts either. There are other 90's parallels and inserts feeling the heat too.

Let's take a look at a couple 1997 Skybox Premium Rubies. Can you imagine spending $76.99 on a Jay Graham card..EVER IN YOUR LIFE??? Or even $71.99 on a Ronnie McAda version. Who?? I know Graham at least but I actually had to Google who McAda was. Which he was Mr.Irrelevant in the 1997 NFL Draft and was drafted from the United States Military Academy. It appears he never had a snap in the NFL.

But, yet someone forked out $72 for him.

These are only a couple of examples for the craziness going on and the prices others are driving up on these cards. 

Some of which I still need for my player collections. Speaking of which, I have a story to tell but first...

*takes an angry sip, you know, one of those loud slurps*

*takes another. returns to the keyboard to tell a story*

A guy on Instagram contacted me about a month ago after he noticed some of the players I collected and asked if I was interested in seeing some cards of those players he had. 

I wished I had said no.

He had an amazing assortment of PMG's, Ex Credentials and a 1997 Skybox Rubies Rodney Hampton which besides the Green PMG, is my most wanted Hampton card. Immediately I inquired about a trade, which he was fine with doing but preferred to sell. So, I asked for trade value and this is the part that got me.

Overall, the cards he showed me had close to $1200 in trade value. These players included Kerry Collins, Charles Way, Tyrone Wheatley, Jessie Armstead, and Rodney Hampton by the way. I thought the number was steeper than Mount Everest so I tried just trading for the Skybox Rubies Hampton which alone was over $250 in trade value. Even though I really wanted those cards, especially the Hampton, thinking about the cards I would have had to give up to land those was overwhelming. I had to back out and cry in a corner with a cup of coffee.

Since then, I have seen a few of those cards list on eBay with a starting bid of $99. None of which ever received a bid. I am not sure if he still has those cards or not, but if I ever start to see the values dip I may check in with him again.

*takes a sip before finishing up today's post*

It's a sad hobby world when you collect the least popular players, and they have values of Hall Of Famers or more than them. Do you know how many vintage cards or Hall Of Fame autographs you can land for $1200? Yeah, exactly. Even though it was really hard for me to pass up, I made the right decision in the end.

I just wish that deep pockets would stay out of my woods of collecting.

Thoughts on today's post and if you would have done that trade deal is welcomed in comments.

Hope everyone has a fantastic Friday, the weekend is near!

*Coffee Card Blogger Out*

*one last angry sip*

Sunday, March 20, 2022

The State Of The Hobby: Hobby Boxes

*first sip to mouth burns the tongue, not a great start to the morning especially since didn't sleep well. at least I am alive for another day. takes another sip more carefully and begins today's #CardsOverCoffee post*

Welcome back to The State Of The Hobby series. 

In the last post, I tackled how the pandemic had changed the face of retail products. That was just the start of the hobby uprising as it not only affected retail products, because it also affected hobby box prices that have now risen to astronomical amounts.

Remember just a couple of years ago when you were able to go to a site like Dave and Adams and find a hobby box of a new product for about $100-$150? Hate to tell you, those days are long gone.
 
Products like the latest Contenders football release used to be $125-$150 for 6 autographs. Pandemic prices have risen them to $700 for the same thing two years ago you could have gotten a third of that. INSAAAANNNEE.


 
It's not just Contenders or football card prices either, it's all hobby box prices for all sports. ALL have at least doubled if not tripled and offer the same thing or less than two years ago. Look at that Playoff football price, that's more like a $100 box.

Even the clearance section, which used to be where my wife used to shop for me for Christmas because you could find hobby boxes marked down for $50 or less has become a joke. Most of the clearance section now is "marked down" retail. Hanger boxes for $20 and a Mega Box for almost $300 is not clearance by any means. The hobby boxes that are on there, don't even bother looking at.

Don't think I am just picking on Dave and Adams here either, this goes for all websites like Blowout, Steel City Collectibles, etc that sell hobby boxes. I chose Dave and Adams since that is where I used to shop.

All of these price changes for the hobby and retail has changed the landscape of the hobby. The "Deep Pockets" still shell out the cash on the hobby and retail boxes while collectors join in on more box breaks, pick up cheap singles and search thrift stores for treasures for their collections since they have been driven away from opening product. 

It's a tough time as collectors to enjoy the hobby we used to, but fortunately most of us can adjust and find new avenues to enjoy the hobby. Sadly some couldn't and have left.

*takes a sip before finishing up today's post. not sure how food will feel on my burned tongue surface especially if I go the toast route but I need breakfast very soon*

The changes in prices has reflected on my hobby as well. I no longer buy hobby boxes nor even ask for any for Christmas. I find an eBay gift card sufficient now as I plug in pieces to my collection instead. Occasionally I will buy a retail box if it's a product that catches my attention or if I just get that pack ripping itch under control.

Even though it kills me on the hobby box part, at least I am still enjoying the hobby.

*takes another sip, maybe scrambled eggs for this morning will work*

Lots of questions I am sending your guys way today,
I am curious in comments if you have bought a hobby box in the last couple of years since the price changes? What's the most you have ever spent on a hobby box? Did you used to open product before the pandemic and what do you do now?

Have a Super Sunday!

*Coffee Card Blogger Out*

Monday, March 7, 2022

State Of The Hobby: Retail Product

*got up early this morning I guess to write a post for you guys or maybe wanted to infuse myself with extra coffee today. or maybe just wanted to get a few things done before my sister-in-law arrives from TN. regardless of why, here I am, and here is a new post*

In this new segment, I want to tackle a few sections of the hobby that have drastically changed since the pandemic. As we all know, life has changed in many ways since Covid.

First up, the most notable one, retail products.

Before the pandemic, I could find all of the retail product I wanted. Packs, blasters, hangers from every product that was released from every sport. Heck, there were even clearance packs of 2018 Prizm football. It offered a wonderland of options and I got excited about taking a trip to Walmart never having to worry about being able to find cards to open.

Then came the pandemic.

I think a lot of people got bored or taken in by an influencer, because that's when a big influx of money appearing in the hobby from flippers. Week by week, retail product started to disappear until the shelves were bare on a weekly basis leaving actual collectors distraught and frustrated like myself.  The flippers knowing they had cleaned out real collectors fun, found their own fun by trying to charge twice what they paid. There was no way basic collectors, especially myself, was going to pay two times the price for something I could have opened a week or two prior for regular cost.

Retail product than became a hunt for collectors and a celebration would occur if you got there first before the flippers. Especially if you ever spotted basketball products.

The only real shot you had, is if you timed it right when the vendor was there. Otherwise, you were out of luck as the flippers came in and cleared off shelves like vultures. It looked like a scene from Jingle All The Way with Turbo Man when flippers saw the shelves full.

I went many months without opening up any retail product to the point I had started trading away decent cards to people on Twitter just to get something to open. Occasionally, my father would time it right with the vendor and was able to grab me a pack or two. Otherwise, one of my favorite things to do in the hobby was gone. Ripping packs was no longer an option and I needed to find another favorite thing to do. So instead, I enjoyed the cards that I already had by sorting them again....and again....and you guessed it, again.

I had actually gotten to the point where I hated going to Walmart when the trip was just about finding laundry detergent and clearance items.

*takes a sip, coffee is getting a bit cold. better take another sip or two before continuing on*

Fast forward to the summer of 2021, I started to notice a little retail back on the shelves again. The only problem, it was only the products the flippers couldn't flip and were some of my least favorites. Topps Heritage, Topps Update, Chronicles Draft and Topps Gallery. There wasn't much of it as I think they were still trying to flip it, but there was some at least if I chose to grab it. Not that I wanted this to come across as a complaint as it was nice to see some product again, but it wasn't exactly what I would have personally spent money on.

But, there was still no basketball, no Prizm, no Topps Chrome, Mosaic, Optic to find in sight. I am not sure if it ever hit the shelves or if the flippers used a wand and said Evanesco making all of those products disappear before anyone could get to them. If you don't get that reference, you must not have seen Harry Potter.

*takes another sip, may need a new cup soon with the coffee getting quite cold from this long post*

*gets up, brews a second cup, sits back down and continues on with today's post*

By this point, I never expected to see retail shelves full again. Then came the fall/winter of 2021 where product started to appear more on the shelves giving collectors more options. But, those options didn't come without a price.

Card companies got wise. They saw flippers making a killing off of their products so they figured, why are we allowing them to make all of the money when we can be making more. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Price increases were across the board, especially for more popular products. Most blaster boxes jumped between $28-$36. Hanger Boxes were hanging around at $20. Hanger Packs jumped to $15 while Fat Packs made their way to $8. Then there was the Mega Boxes jumping to $50-$60.

This now put real collectors on another sad level. They could actually find product, but now had to pay twice for what they want.
 

 
My last two trips to Walmart actually looked like this. There was even Optic and Mosaic basketball to find. First time in two years I have seen basketball, especially popular basketball on the shelves. The one thing you can't see though as I picked up an Optic blaster to go home with, was the $40 price tag for it that made me return it to the shelf. There was no way I was going to pay twice what I would have two years ago.

The other sad reality of retail product are companies also putting less in. Most now don't have any guaranteed hits. Not even a player worn relic. Most just have blaster exclusive parallels which don't seem worth the price tag for to me.

*takes a sip before finishing up today's post*

I will admit I have overpaid for some of the products on the shelves just for some retail therapy. But, I didn't like it. At least though I wasn't supporting the flipper community.

Retail is just one part of the sad reality of today's hobby and how much things have changed since the pandemic. As I continue this series, I will dive into many more topics. Some, you might not even realize until you think about it.

I know you, the readers, must have some thoughts on today's topic. Make sure your mug is full of joy, and you let me know your comments on this.

Have a great Monday.

*Coffee Card Blogger Out*